Critique du Rough cut de X3? Spoilers EDIT peut etre faux?

Bon , il est trés possible que ce soit pas des conneries car ca vient de ladyvenus , qui a donné aussi les images de cet aprem..


en ts cas , j'ai lu le début et ca sent pas bon désolé..


Edit: Superherohype nous dit de nous méfier de ladyvenus..qu'elle aurait déja foutu la merde de par le passé..mais d'un autre coté ted et matt du xverse qui ne croit pas comme ca le premier venu lui fonf confiance.. Quoi qu'il en soit, je crois qu'il est mieux de ne rien croire de tout ça avant que l'on ait d'autres critiques ..Aprés tout je doute que si elle a vu un premier montage du film , elle est la seule

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First of all, just as I posted earlier, this film is not for those who were expecting Wolverine/Rogue goodness within X3. Also, FORGET WHATEVER you remember about X1 and X2. None of that background and logic comes into play with this film. In fact, I kept counting all the inconsistancies and plot holes in this movie the whole time watching. There are very few threads of connection between this film and Singer's films. Those expecting any kind of continuity will be majorly disappointed because this film is really a huge departure from X1 and X2. It made me really appreciate the other two films and all my gripes about X2 are sooooooooooooooo minimal by comparison to this one.

The other thing to remember is that THIS IS STORM's movie, she is the main focus of this movie and is in about every shot. More important it's STORM & WOLVERINE's movie. And yeah, I mean that as a "couple" type of thing. It does happen and Ratner really does try to sell them.

Also, the AICN Script review was pretty dead on. There weren't many changes at all other than insignificant ones. The story
is the same.

The film opens up touching on the tragedy of Jean Grey's demise. We see Scott having to deal with the emotional rollercoaster of losing her. Amazingly enough there is some substantial amount of footage of Cyclops in this movie. I thought it would be a "blink" and miss him situation, yet it's not long until he's murdered by the resurfaced Jean Grey. He finds her at Akali, confused and disoriented. They have a moment of bliss before she kills him. If this sounds strange, wait until you see it yourself, I'm still trying to figure it all out myself. I was quite pissed at this scene after I saw it play out. Cyclops fans will be extremely disappointed at seeing him killed off so retardedly.

Wolverine takes off after Cyclops but finds Jean instead lying by the Lakefront. He takes her to Xavier's where she's placed in the MedLab and observed by the Professor. Hank comes to the institute and immediately gets into the thick of things by discussing with Xavier about the "Cure" for mutants and possibly threat of what I think is "Legacy". Hank also immediately takes a "shine" to Storm *what is it with her and those blue mutants*. She's friendly but it's clearly obvious that Storm is hopelessly in love with Wolverine.

Logan and Hank's relationship develops quite nicely. I liked the chemistry between Grammar and Jackman but it's when Stewart that Kelsey plays off brilliantly with. In fact, some of their wittier-intellectual jokes go over Wolvie's head which is cute. Most of the time Hank looks pretty... well, ridiculous. The gorilla outfit Kelsey wears isn't that believable and I kept thinking of him as one of those Disneyland characters walking around at the amusement park. Hank's film transfer isn't very good physically but Kelsey really does sell the character emotionally.

The X-Men currently (post X2) only consist of Wolverine, Rogue, Cyclops and Storm. What happened to Bobby???

Who knows but apparently Bobby & Colossus weren't officially made X-Men until this film. In fact, when Xavier calls for an X-Men meeting its Rogue, Wolvie and Storm that meet up with Xavier and Hank to discuss missions. Speaking of such, remember that storyline of Rogue going undercover to spy on the Brotherhood? That was given to Wolverine instead. Wolvie's relationship with Rogue is almost non-existant. They have a FEW scenes together but the engineer said those would probably be trimmed in the final cut.

I had to watch X1 immediately last night when I came home because it was tragic to watch this wonderful pairing trashed completely. You have to be a real dillusional WR shipper to find a trace of their coupling. Although, the very few scenes they are in together makes you hunger for more. I personally think Rogue's X-Men look is a tad screwy. Ratner's decision to use a "hairpiece" on her is terrible at best. First off, it contradicts her X2 appearance where the stripe is centered *where is should be ala X1*, instead he moves her stripe to the side of her head. Her bangs and most of the center is brown. I think he was using this technique to make her hair look more dramatic but instead it comes off odd and sloppy. Not only changing her hair but then he went and changed up her suit. While she still looks smashing in her leather Ratner ditched her sexier appearance from X2, the boots most notably. Going more for a basic look, now I firmly believe this was done as not to overshadow Storm's look, considering Storm's suit is so fugly. Yet even with the changes to Rogue's outfit, Paquin's body is just too dynamite to be watered down. All her cokebottle curves just bounce off the screen. The guys in the audience will be pleased.

Rogue's screentime in this film is so minimal. She has some small things to do but I think Paquin may have asked for a small role in lieu of Margaret. Those expecting alot of Rogue will be disappointed. She's pretty much the same wallflower with nothing to do. She's really regulated to such a background character in this film. We do get a peek at the disolution of her relationship with Bobby and the spark of interest in Colossus. Now it would have been smarter for Ratner to really run further with the Rogue&Colossus relationship but he just leaves it open ended. There is one very very brief moment of Wolvie's jealousy during the Danger Room over Rogue&Colossus but the moment is like "blink" and you miss it moment. I also doubt Ratner will keep it in the film.

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Speaking of Colossus, he gets a fair amount of screentime here. Those Colossus fans (like myself) will be pleased in seeing so much of Daniel in this movie and Ratner really does try to deliver Colossus as the Den Father of the Institute. He really takes to protecting and helping the kids at the school. I really love the moment he spends with counseling one of the students. It's quite tender and its one of the very few touching moments of the movie. It also doesn't hurt that Cudmore looks even more delicious here than in X2 and trust the stills on Piotr are just yummy. I found that Cudmore's Colossus was one of the redeeming qualities of this movie.

Jean Grey is more confused Phoenix than Dark Phoenix. Famke does the best with what she's given. I mean she does an amazing job with all the "cheesiness" that Ratner throws at her and I think if it was anyone else they would have fucked it up easily. I'm really not sure who to blame here, Ratner or Kinberg or both. Jean Grey's surfacing was one thing but then she comes off rather Linda Blair'ish at times. Thankfully when she teams up with Magneto, she really hits her stride. Magneto teaches Jean how to use her powers and guides her through expanding them as well as embracing her Dark Phoenix. Magneto also helps her comes to terms with her very checkered past. The betrayal that she believes Xavier did to her and extracting her revenge on all those that have betrayed her. She murders Xavier in cold blood and it's a very FX heavy scene between the two mutants. It also reminds me much of X-Men Evolution's ASCENSION II where this was played out It's almost exactly the same to be honest. Again, Famke does a great job with Jean Grey, it's just a shame that she was given a shitty director to work with that didn't understand how to expand more on the Phoenix Saga. Those Jean fans will be happy with what they are given but in turn will be pissed at the shaving and drastic altering of Jean & Phoenix.

Magneto is the biggest and best thing in the film. He actually does save the movie, quite a bit too. Luckily Ratner also allowed the second and third Act to belong to Magneto. When Mystique is murdered/cured Magneto loses his grip and decides to avenge her. What was reported in Wizard was completely wrong, no surprise, Magneto's affection for Mystique was deep emotional bond and we do get to see this for a brief scene in X3. The Magnus Opus of the film is Erik's combating an army of humans which is spectactular to watch. I was really overwhelmed at how well done this came off. (I just hope they can blend in the FX styles better during the final cut). The Golden Gate Bridge was just a great part of the film and we get to see the Brotherhood come together and murder a large number of people (although Magneto pretty much wipes out everyone). Ratner exhibits why Erik is the most powerful mutant in the world. Again, MAGNETO is really the ONLY reason to see this film. Ian does an incredible job with this character and what a way to go.

Mystique like Magneto does alot to save this film from sinking. Her brief scenes are like a breath of fresh air. From her capture to the interogation room scenes are really tense and you can't take your eyes off the screen. Unfortunately, there's just not enough of her in this movie. Where Bryan had expanded on her in X2 here she's given only a couple of things to do then bam! She's killed off. Love 'Becca and it's a shame to see this wonderful character killed off this way. I feel quite resentful at Ratner for making this very stupid decision.

Juggernaut is just there. He's almost like a prop in a way. Vinnie doesn't really bring anything to the character because there really isn't much depth given to the character other than to be a henchman. I was still disappointed by the appearance of Jugsy in this movie. In fact, I think it was a big mistake by allowing Ratner control over Jugsy because I think Vaughn would have given us a better adaptation considering they were friends. If that wasn't bad enough there is a fight between Kitty & Jugsy. Yeah, you heard right Jugsy tries killing sweet lil' Kitty and Leech. Ugh. He's one of the handicaps of the film.

Pyro is captivating but like Rogue, he's being regulated to only a certain amount of screen time. I hope the "Pyro recruits" scenes are kept in the film. I liked his briefing the new recruits on the terms of being a brother. Stanford while not my choice for Pyro, does give an excellent job in this version. His FX are even better this time around and when he's given a job it's really amazing how well some of the pyrotechnics work.

Kitty&Bobby. I'm lumping them together because they were just so stale in the film. I do like Ellen as Kitty and I think she did a BRILLIANT Job in this role because of the storyline she was given. I don't think Sumela would have been the right actress for this part considering the direction they were taking with Kitty. It was a smarter move to choose Ellen instead. Bobby does get to demonstrate his icy talents but after those FX evaporate he's not given much else to do. He's being touted around the school as some "stud" which doesn't even come off slightly believable. While Ashmore is not FUG, they didn't really give him a great look in this film. The problem with Bobby is that they give him so much screentime but not much material to work with. The direction for Iceman is quite confusing because the character has never been given too much depth in personality. Here, Ratner just screws up the character even more by trying to make him morally conflicted. Another bad move.


Storm, ugh. Where do I begin? Like I mentioned above, Halle- er I mean Storm is in love with Wolverine. Ratner really does have a penchant for interacial romances and does exhibit his love for it so fondly here. In fact, he spends about a good portion of the film trying to make Storm this complex and deep individual that Halle really can't pull off correctly. There are so many times that she's so flat and empty. The problem with Storm is that Singer didn't invest in her within the two films so she was just a background character. While I did want to see some expansion on Storm, I didn't want to see this much of it nor the direction they took with her. Giving Halle too much to do is what really fucks up this film. She's in about 90% of the shots and the story really does seem to revolve around her. I was amazed at how much Ratner focused on her. It's like he's really trying to redeem not only Storm but Halle Berry as well. Either way, for me it totally fucked up the film because it was like being forcefed cow dung. Her performances were so dead except when she has these "intimate" scenes with Hugh Jackman where she can't help but put her dirty mits on him, everywhere, just you wait and see, its rather sad to see. Oddly enough, Zak Penn's original storyline of pairing Rogue&Cyclops together was switch to Storm&Wolverine. There were a few people a couple of years back that I told this about and it's funny that they did use the story, just the wrong pairing (although, I'm not too wild about Scott&Rogue either). Halle's chemistry with Jackman is always so lopsided. While she's really into it, Hugh just seems so distant at times, especially when he has his very brief encounters with Anna that over shadow his many scenes with Halle. I think the ROLO's will be very pleased with the amount of Storm&Wolvie in this movie but for the majority of the fanboys I think we'll hear alot of crying and ranting. In fact, I don't doubt that the critics are going to have a field day picking apart this section of the movie.



Wolverine, I think they disintergated the character by making him a caricature. Now not that Bryan didn't have his "silly" moments with Wolverine for the most part Ratner has made him so overthetop that you'll find yourself laughing at him more than sympathizing. He has three, count them, three Crying Scenes. All three atrociously terrible and overacted. Think Jean Grey's death scene in X2 and multiply it by 10 and there you got one crying scene in X3. I'm not overstating this at all but depending on your tastes, I think this won't go over well with critics or moviegoers. I know at the Mann's Chinese Theatre in LA mostly everyone laughed at Wolverine's blubbering so I'm expecting more guffawing this time. The other problem is that Ratner tries desperately to incorporate more "Comic Wolvie" into the film and that's just not possible. Most people know that comics and films should always contrast each other and never should be direct adaptations. Take into consideration these films have been a departure from the comics up until this point. That's what worked for the mainstream audiences. Ratner has thrown in way too many comic references into this film and has made it almost too hard to be relatable.

Logan very proudly takes over the X-Men in honor of Xavier's mission. Oddly this is a departure from the comics but isn't so believable considering this man has been a renegade up to now. Wolverine gets the job only by default in a way. I almost could have seen Colossus being a better leader for this new X-Men group (Kitty, Bobby and Storm) yet Wolvie does take the job. He has some great fight scenes in the movie and that does stand out alot. The action within the film supercedes Singer's by miles and that's Ratner's real forte in this movie. All of Wolverine's fighting moves are fluid and timed perfectly. There are times when he becomes way too disciplined in his fighting moves but you forgive him because the sequence is so good. His fight with Jamie Maddox aka Multiple Man (who's alot more prominent in this movie) is pretty damned good. Both him and Wolverine go at it brilliantly. Overall without the fighting sequences I must say Wolverine is pretty much trashed in the movie. He's not the same and even Hugh's performance of Wolvie has changed so much. He lost alot of that "Han Solo" quality about him. After watching X2 last night I am without a doubt positive that was Wolvie's best film from the trilogy. Hugh's look here isn't so great. He's aged so much since X2 and it really really shows. Keep in mind, I'm seeing a raw version here so I'm quite sure that the FX team will clean all of those impurities up.

Now brings me to the final piece of this puzzle. Angel. He could have been a movie all entirely on his own. I still don't like Ben Foster for this role but he does a damn good job at delivering the goods. I didn't like the direction they took with this mutant which should have played up the more Poor little Rich boy image. It's a very good story and you get TONS of background on Angel. In fact, I'd say that you get more background on him than anyone else. There is an extremely uncomfortable scene of watching young Angel cutting off his wings with a dagger. It's very unsettling. He like Colossus & Magneto does alot for this movie.

X3 as a whole has too many holes to stand up to the likes of Superman Returns or especially the DaVinci Code. It may do well but I think in the end it will be ripped for the storyline which is very flat and littered with problems. FOX has rushed this project and the results are so perfectly clear when viewing this film. I just wished they would have chosen a more capable director.

I went in not expecting much and while I still think Angel, Mystique, Magneto & Colossus save the film from being a complete joke, yet I know others may walk away completely disappointed. Don't get me wrong, it's not a COMPLETE disaster but this is supposed to be the last of the trilogy and should be more epic. You get no sense of epicness from this film at all.

Just my thoughts

http://missladyvenus.livejournal.com/45615.html#cutid1

Je comprends crois moi.(meme si faut voir par soit meme quand meme hein) .mais en meme temps elle dit bien que y a du bon: colossus , magneto ,mystique,Angel ,le fait que Ellen Page ,Famke et Aaron Stanford, s'en tirent bien.les scenes d'action.

mais bon, on commence quand meme à chercher dés maintenant les adresse de Arad and cie?

et bah...
Je sais pas trop quoi penser. J'aurais espéré que l'histoire se tienne bien, mais d'après ce que j'en lis...

Bon a priori ya du bon sous exploité et du mauvais sur exploité...


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Y en a marre de Halle Berry et de Rattner...

Mais bon rien que pour Magneto, Angel, Mystique, Collossus, Wolvie et Rogue.. pis Beast ... oué nana finalement je pense que le bilan est pas si négatif mais que les éléments négatifs sont tellement chiants que le gars a plus insisté dessus...

(tentative de recherche d'espoir en cours)

est-ce qu'on a avait eu des fuites lors de x2? non parce que si c'est pas le cas, je vois pas pourquoi on en aurait là. pis je sais pas, dans x2 aussi on pouvais dire des trucs hyper négatif:
-Wolvie s'accapare le film, il s'éloigne du comic
-Lady deathstrike est une potiche
-Cyclope évincé du film
-quelques longueurs
-etc etc

c'est facil de trouver des points négatifs sur des rush

oui bien sur qu'on pouvait trouver des défauts au film (meme si bon Deathstrike avait une sacré présence) , mais on aurait pu dire que le film était mal joué? Que les histoires en présence n'étaient pas exploitée? ( je parle pas du film qu'on aurait aimé voir , je parle du film en lui meme)
que certains passages du film était risible?

il y avait eu des échos oui et ils étaient plutot bon..

ps: attention il ne s'agit pas des rush , il s'agit d'un premier montage avec des fx presque terminé..c bien différent . ce qui veut dire que l'image a déja été traité , dévellopé , retravaillé...Y a encore du boulot ( comme finir les fx) mais le gros est la.

J'ai l'impression que si meme des trucs sont vraiment foireux , risibles , ce sera un film qui pourra s'apprécier avec un esprit de fan..

un peu d'espoir

delerium (miss ladayvenus)
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I read your review and I was a tad confused. Plain and simply do you think this is a good film or not?

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To me it was hard to be harsh towards it because Ian does such a brilliant job with Magneto, same with Cudmore as Colossus, Even ANGEL's role was fuckin' brilliant.

I would say it's just so mixed the final battle on the bridge is spectacular. Really really well done.

Is it epic? NO

Is it something that will top X2? Depends on your tastes
I found it quite over the top in some moments (ie. Jugsy vs. Wolvie) and there were some great tender moments (ie. Colossus counseling a student)

Quelques spoilers:

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Sure, shoot!

does beast become an x-men again at the end of the film? Beast is an X-Man has been and will always be one.

is the funeral scene just for xavier? Just Xavier and nobody else and is the reason Wolvie takes on the leader role of the X-Men.

how was moira mctaggart in the film? She was brief but effective. Not a huge role.

and what is jeans fait in the end of the film? She dies.

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1) Does Angel join the X men? Yes, it looks like he inherits Cyclop's suit
2) Did you notice any cameos that haven't been discussed yet? There probably are because there were tons of mutants at the big battle but I'm not that hugely versed on the comics.
3) How big is Psylockes role? Almost nonspeaking, she says a couple of things and thats about it.

Edit: Thanks for answering my earlier question's Del

No problem.

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Bill Duke?

Is he the black guy from Predator? If that's him I think he's a senator, if I'm not mistaken and he's like in it so briefly.

Beast has a large role but not larger than Angel. He's still regulated so some screen time but he's more involved in the "Legacy/cure" aspect of the film. He spends alot of time with Government officials and the CDC regarding the cure and trying to shut those clinics down. He joins Storm, Wolverine and Kitty in freeing Leech and other mutants from the Worthington lab. This is where he drops down and isn't surrounded by soldiers that I recall but does alot of fighting while Kitty goes to save other mutants within the lab.

si vous voulez lui posez vos questions , il faut s'inscrire là: http://www.thexverse.com/community/showthread.php?t=42&page=4
(Tok, c pour toi ca! )

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- Does Magneto die or survive? If he dies, how does it happane?

Oh Mags, if you don't mind I wanna leave that a mystery. It's quite delicious.

- Does Mystique die after being "cured" or is her fate undetermined?

She dies and this is what leads Magneto into a RAGE against humanity. She has an AWESOME fight scene during her interrogation from the CIA.

- How does Rogue get "more action" in the film?

Mainly in the Danger Room scene. She's involved with the Phoenix but that like Magneto I'm going to keep mum on. It's good though.

- How does the team take Cyclops death? Is he revived at the end?

NO, he's not revived. He's dead just as Jean.

- Once and for all, are there any Sentinels in this film? (I already knwo the answer to this one)

Yes, and I would have answered Electic X on the Hype about this but he/she was acting like an ass about it so that's why I didn't answer it. Now I didn't see the design for the sentinels because that hadn't been completed when I view it. Keep in mind there were still some FX that hadn't been completed eventhough it seemed like a majority of it was, the Engineer at FOX said there were still tons to do. Go figure.

- How does the Danger Room sequence end? Is that what the Fastball Special is for(we see in the trailer Colossus throwing Wolverine)

Pretty much Colossus saves the day in there along with Storm. Rogue does somethings but it's divided up in teams Wolverine, Rogue, Colossus vs. Storm, Bobby, Kitty. The fastball? Its there. I'll just say that, I'm not pleased with it at all but fans might like it.

- Is there any mention of Nightcrawler at all?

Nothing that I recall this is what pissed me the most. There are alot of continuity problems.

- Is the end open to a another sequel?

Not really, it does seal everyone's fates though. It could continue but doesn't necessarily say "A Sequel is a must!". Not in the way X2 did. It does place closure.

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hey delerium, I'm assuming you are this "Gina" everyones talking about. I read your review and I thought I was interesting. Theres only really one thing I want to know, are there alot of great visual shots by Brett Ratner? I mean, how good of a director was he? on a scale of 1-10?



I'm gonna answer this one because it's a quickie. The FX Shots which weren't entirely completed looked so good. In fact, I think alot of those shots will look convincing once everything has been blended.

I think Ratner was a wrong choice for this film because the X-Men have been more dramatic, very much the Soap Opera of comicbooks. Bryan Singer had a good handle on relationships and keeping a hint of ambiguity to some. Ratner doesn't even hint to that. He's very cut and dry to what he want's to do. There is not misinterpretation but the mystery of the X-Men is gone, IMO.

Now the good stuff. He's EXCELLENT with action I mean the action was so spot on terrific. He really knew how to throw punches and coordinate "Flying" scenes. I did like alot of his ideas and his choreography, the one thing Singer wasn't capable of was the one thing he really did so well

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That my biggest complaint about Halle. Storm should be confident and dangerous - Halle isnt bringing this across at all in the character.

How are the sentinels used D? What do we see them doing?

Thanks!


She does try to become overlyconfident but to me it looked like vanity and silly overacting. I'm probably biased and a halle fan will probably LOVE It.

I didn't get to see the Sentinels, it was a "Iron Tower" Hugh is thrown at and what they told us was that the iron tower is a robot. Obviously a sentinel, they never said the word Sentinel but c'mon it's a big bot, that's a sentinel to me.

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Ok ok...
Cette personne à l'air crédible. Donc, le film sera excellent et meilleur que le 2 pour l'action, mais bof bof pour tout le reste. Bah voila la définition d'un blockbuster fadasse...

oui , enfin à la réflexion (et je v me contredire un peu quand memev ),en meme temps oublies pas que c l'avis d' UNE personne..et que l'on ne sait pas qui c,quel sont ses gouts ,ses connaisances..

elle semble s'attacher aussi à des problemes qui semble mineurs ( genre la meche de Malicia)

Elle peut dire ce qu'elle veut , ca ne veut pas dire que le film ne sera pas meilleur que X2 ( meme si j'ai des doutes)

et par la ca veut aussi dire que le film sera peut etre moins bon que ce qu'elle nous dit..

elle trouve que Daniel Cudmore /colossus est une des choses qui sauvent le film? j'attends de voir quand meme hein..

elle trouve que les scenes d'action méga chorégraphié de wolverine sont exellentes?

heu , je veux bien qu'il se débrouille le Ratner , mais par le passé c t pas non plus un virtuose de ce coté la hein ( des scenes mille fois vue ailleurs en mieux)

puisque on en parle ,je trouve que quand meme les scenes d'action de X2 sont quand meme pas mal ! ( la scene d'intro bien imaginative , bien surprnante, le combat avec deathstrike bien violent bien visceral , l'évasion de magneto idem .. la scene spectaculaire ( et émouvante mais c moi de Jean Grey et le barrage..)

c pas Piege de crystal , mais cette année la j'avais pas vu bcp de film aussi "remuant" niveau action ..

je veux dire , perso j'attends une scene d'action qui m'implique émotionnellement et visceralement..pas simplement des cascades ou je fais " trop cool"..

enfin bref , quoi qu'il en soit , je me ferais déja plus une idée avec plusieurs critiques..

Ps1: oublions pas en plus que ladyvenus semble suspecte pour bcp de monde donc..Wait and see..

Ps2: et je reste convaincu que meme si le film est foireux , il restera un film de "fan"..we'll see

Je crois que ton forum a eu de petits soucis car la fox traque ceux qui ont posté des photos du dark phoenix...

Sinon, oui l'avis d'une personne n'est franchement pas représentative (pour peu qu'elle bosse pour la warner! ). Mais bon c'est embettant quand même. Pis y'en a bien qui trouve x2 moins bien que x1...

Oui pour Cudmore ça me semble étrange. Déja que les producteurs n'étaient pas forcement chaud pour qu'il reprenne son rôle de Colossus, mais lui donner une scène "d'émotion" avec un autre étudiant (bah la voila notre scène gay). Pis oui, y'a des détails... et je persiste à dire que bon nombre de personnes ont du être très critique vis à vis du premier x-men qui il faut bien dire ne respecte pas à 100% le comic (et c'est tant mieux). Pis elle semble être surprise que certain perso (comme Bobby) n'est pas grand chose à faire, mais vu le nombre de personnages, fallait pas s'attendre à ce que chacun est un monologue de 10 minutes. Voila ce que je reproche à cette critique et à cette personne, c'est son manque de recul, elle a du tapper sa critique très vite pour avoir les images fraiches dans sa tête mais je suis persuadé qu'elle révisera sa copie.

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Je crois que ton forum a eu de petits soucis car la fox traque ceux qui ont posté des photos du dark phoenix...

hs: je me suis posé la question!

Non mais je crois que ça peut venir de là. La fox est revancharde! t'as qu'a aimer Brettounet

lol

non mais serieux , ca va pas t'étonner je pense , mais parait que la fox est furieuse..A1ant vient de rapporter ca..apparremnt ladyvenus a volé les photos et c pas la premiere fois qu'elle fait ca ( ca c t déja produit sur X2) Elle aurait 72 photos!

en plus quand on sait qu'ils faisaient tout pour etre le plus secret possible et qu'en plus elle a fait une critique assez négative du film , t'magines dans quel état ils sont à la fox

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Fox Publicist's Response To The X3 'Review'

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t wh

I made a thread for this because I think everyone needs to see it. I realize most of us already knew this, and it's sort of a "duh..." thread, but this is for the folks who were still curious.


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A quite negative X3 review has been making the rounds on the internet recently. We, the folks at XMF were baffled by how a review could come out this early, since X3's post production only began months ago.

We got to work and e-mail 20th Century Fox directly. Their publicist informed us:

"The film [X3] isn't even assembled yet. I talk to production all the time."

So, it turns out the review is a dud. The film itself isn't near being finalize, and fully edited with special effects added in. Theres still months of work to be done. Like we were told, it's very much a work in progress, and is not being screened for any people at this point.

So X-fans, please disregard that false 'review'. XMF has, and won't ever link to it. We also will never link to photos not approved by the studio. Why? Because it's illegal.

Ce serait donc faux..

par le passé on a suspecté la production de X3 de mentir mais jusqu'à preuve du contraire ,ce n'était pas le cas..(Mais ils sont capable de nous faire quelques surprises comme l'a prouvé X2...serait il possible qu'il puisse désavouer une mauvaise critique?en ts cas ils avaient pas nié que Moriarty avait bien eu une critique tt ce qui y a de plus vrai.. ils avaient juste dit que c t une premiere ébauche...ce qui apriori etait pas faux)

Ce qui est trés possible alors , est que Misslady v ait déduit de par ses 72 photos quel sont les évenements du film..

Ce qui est sur en ts les cas c que quelqu'un quelque part se fout de nous!

J'espère que cette dame ne bosse pas pour la Fox, sinon...
C'est vrai qu'avec 72 photos on peut presque commenter un film, mais bon. Peut être qu'on lui a raconté ce qui se passait dans le film, un truc bien détaillé, mais j'ai de gros doutes maintenant qu'elle est vu le film.

Simon Kinberg en ts cas nous dit que non seulement Stacy X n est pas dans le film ( surprises ) mais confirme que le film n'a meme pas été monté

Citation :

From Simon Kinberg's Q&A thread over at Xverse:

Plucked from the other thread: what's the favourite X3 rumour you've read on the internet so far?

"Wow, so many to choose from. I was pretty amused by the latest “film review” of a movie that hasn’t even been cut together. I also followed all the crazy Stacy X rumors. At the end of the day, Stacy X isn’t even in the movie!

Trust me, there are lots of secrets left in our film."